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    • Dinan is attempting to enter the Audi B9 S4/S5 3.0 TFSI Turbo tuning market - Prediction: APR stomps Dinan into the ground

      Ah, Dinan. The once lofty name of the BMW tuning world that now tries to peddle overpriced piggybacks. What is one to do with that Piggyback investment? Well, attempt to adapt it to as many manufacturer verhicles as possible. The 3.0 TFSI twin scroll turbo V6 in the B9 S4 /S5 is the perfect candidate.


      The problem? APR is the big player in the Audi/VW tuning world. APR isn't going to push overpriced and underwhelming piggybacks on people. They will offer a real flash tune. They will offer TCU tunes. They will offer turbo upgrades. Basically, they will do everything Dinan can't and everything enthusiasts who actually want to be fast will want.

      Quote Originally Posted by Dinan
      It's official - Dinan is here for the long haul.

      We have been feverishly working the last half year or so putting together a full comprehensive tuning program (tuning, exhaust, and suspension to start -- intakes and other items to follow) for the bulk of the Audi/VW lineup that we will be unveiling here in the not so distant future. During that time we have used numerous customer vehicles from folks here on Audizine and elsewhere. We would like to thank those individuals immensely for their patience and understanding while we start this new venture in the VAG brands. However, utilizing customer cars for R&D has some inherent flaws -- namely time constraints --- that isn't ideal for long term development. With the release of the new B9 S4 we saw the opportunity to start properly on a new platform right at the get go. Fast forward a few days while we found our ideal packaged car and now we have our own 2018 B9 S4 shop car to go along with our expanding fleet of Euro shop vehicles. While it isnt much too look at currently, by the time SEMA rolls around we intend to have a completely transformed vehicle at the show for the industry and press to ogle, and a product catalog for the endearing masses to take advantage of.

      We look forward to bringing the "Dinan Difference" over to the Audi side!
      The Dinan difference? That would be paying more money only to get stomped by better tuners. Good luck Dinan, you are going to need it.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: Dinan is attempting to enter the Audi B9 S4/S5 3.0 TFSI Turbo tuning market - Prediction: APR stomps Dinan into the ground started by Sticky View original post
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      1. richpike's Avatar
        richpike -
        Ha! This is going to be a disaster for them - they've clearly been working on cars running with the garage door shut. The only reason they are even still around in the BMW world is relying on their old reputation (e.g. E46). They have no reputation in the VAG world - they'll have to stand on product performance alone, which as you said is far behind the major player(s) in the VAG community. I expect this will put them under for good.

        -Rich
      1. Tony@VargasTurboTech's Avatar
        Tony@VargasTurboTech -
        I love Dinan bashers. Yes they are struggling to hold water, its why they are continually growing, their R&D center is larger than most other companies in the same market entire operation. I love that people think a piggy back would make a break a company this large. Its truly laughable. This is solid click bait though sticks, got me to click it. You are getting better are the baiting, keep up the good work!
      1. Sticky2's Avatar
        Sticky2 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Tony@VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
        I love Dinan bashers. Yes they are struggling to hold water, its why they are continually growing, their R&D center is larger than most other companies in the same market entire operation. I love that people think a piggy back would make a break a company this large. Its truly laughable. This is solid click bait though sticks, got me to click it. You are getting better are the baiting, keep up the good work!
        I take it as usual you didn't read the article or click on any of the links which provide supporting evidence?

        Who is supplying turbos to Dinan again?

        Also, why aren't you running a Dinan piggyback?

        Furthermore, what record does Dinan hold other than least amount of horses per dollar?
      1. richpike's Avatar
        richpike -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Tony@VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
        I love Dinan bashers. Yes they are struggling to hold water, its why they are continually growing, their R&D center is larger than most other companies in the same market entire operation. I love that people think a piggy back would make a break a company this large. Its truly laughable. This is solid click bait though sticks, got me to click it. You are getting better are the baiting, keep up the good work!
        I'm genuinely curious - who are they selling to then? If they are so large, where does their revenue come from? They smell an awful lot like Hennessey to me, but I'm willing to have my opinion changed.

        -Rich
      1. Velocity26's Avatar
        Velocity26 -
        The only value to purchasing Dinan is the ability to purchase a new car (with the Dinan package) and maintain their full factory warranty (or the belief that they will) while being faster than stock. They don't have to hide in the shadows, remove unapproved parts and flash back to stock every time the go to the dealer.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by richpike Click here to enlarge
        They have no reputation in the VAG world - they'll have to stand on product performance alone, which as you said is far behind the major player(s) in the VAG community. I expect this will put them under for good.
        I don't expect it will put them under for good it's just that they won't achieve much of anything.

        Dinan already sucks at showing performance results. They don't post Dynojet runs or timeslips. The people in the turbo era don't care about their name.

        The warranty stuff? APR has that covered and then some.

        Let's see what they come up with but it will probably mirror what they do for BMW's which is basically a waste of time unless you don't know anything else.