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    S65 versus N54 engine arguing leads to...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
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    The BB Forum members have spoken
    There was some speaking... ya. Some of them didn't have much of anything with substance to say though.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
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    Some of them didn't have much of anything with substance to say though.
    Yea, this Stick guy kept going on and on about some POS motor called the S65??? Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
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    Yea, this Stick guy kept going on and on about some POS motor called the S65??? Click here to enlarge
    Sounds like a wise man.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
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    Yea, this Stick guy kept going on and on about some POS motor called the S65??? Click here to enlarge
    hahaaha

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    I think secretly N54 owners honestly love the M3 because of the superior handling and build quality, And M3 owners love the N54 because its price and can make good WHP figures.


    but they will never let you know that!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by E90SoFlo Click here to enlarge
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    And M3 owners love the N54 because its price and can make good WHP figures.
    No, I really don't.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
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    No, I really don't.
    ur just mad
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by E90SoFlo Click here to enlarge
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    ur just mad
    No, I'm realistic.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
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    No, I'm realistic.
    you spelled biased wrong Click here to enlarge
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    Broke the record again and I thought it was a slow day... damn.

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    oddly, it was not N54 vs S65 again, it was world vs S65..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
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    oddly, it was not N54 vs S65 again, it was world vs S65..
    actually had nothing to do with the motors but the cars they come in.
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    I'll take an S65 in a heartbeat if someone offered one to me for free. No questions about it. I'll give up my N54 any day of the week. I think most N54 owners would agree with me. Nuff said...
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leo985i Click here to enlarge
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    I'll take an S65 in a heartbeat if someone offered one to me for free. No questions about it. I'll give up my N54 any day of the week. I think most N54 owners would agree with me. Nuff said...
    now, why would i want worse mpgs, a less torquey and poweful car, and a slightly heavier car? all this is especially if i have a street duty car?

    i could go buy one in 15 minutes if i wanted to
    2007 335i (100% stock with mods)

    N54 is not a German 2JZ lol

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
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    now, why would i want worse mpgs, a less torquey and poweful car, and a slightly heavier car? all this is especially if i have a street duty car?
    Because it's a better car.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leo985i Click here to enlarge
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    I'll take an S65 in a heartbeat if someone offered one to me for free. No questions about it. I'll give up my N54 any day of the week. I think most N54 owners would agree with me. Nuff said...
    I would trade my 335i for an M3, but not necessarily the N54 for the S65.
    In my mind, if money were not an issue:

    Blown S65 M3 > Single Turbo N54 335i > NA S65 M3 > FBO N54 335i> Stock N54 335i

    Thats how it goes in my mind. As far as suspension/build quality/etc goes, the M3 wins, obviously.

    However, if money were an issue:
    Single turbo 335i > NA S65 M3 > FBO 335i
    Notice i didnt designate any FI S65s. Thats because, for the money, i would never buy a S65 + blower. Crazy prices...

    Thats for a daily-driver/weekend racer setup. If i wanted autocross/road-course duty, it would be an E46 M3 or E92 M3 over all the others lol
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    If you enjoy down low tq... the S65 is the wrong motor. Even if blown it's not remotely the same thing as a jbd n54.
    2007 335i (100% stock with mods)

    N54 is not a German 2JZ lol

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
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    If you enjoy down low tq... the S65 is the wrong motor. Even if blown it's not remotely the same thing as a jbd n54.
    If I wanted torque down low I'd have a motor with a positive displacement blower. Not something with lag.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eric335 Click here to enlarge
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    I would trade my 335i for an M3, but not necessarily the N54 for the S65.
    In my mind, if money were not an issue:

    Blown S65 M3 > Single Turbo N54 335i > NA S65 M3 > FBO N54 335i> Stock N54 335i

    Thats how it goes in my mind. As far as suspension/build quality/etc goes, the M3 wins, obviously.

    However, if money were an issue:
    Single turbo 335i > NA S65 M3 > FBO 335i
    Notice i didnt designate any FI S65s. Thats because, for the money, i would never buy a S65 + blower. Crazy prices...

    Thats for a daily-driver/weekend racer setup. If i wanted autocross/road-course duty, it would be an E46 M3 or E92 M3 over all the others lol
    doesnt the 1M just sound perfect?
    2007 335i (100% stock with mods)

    N54 is not a German 2JZ lol

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
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    doesnt the 1M just sound perfect?
    It truly does Click here to enlarge Price, suspension, engine, size, weight, ugh. $#@! BMW for making it so limited....
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    The S65 is the better motor than the N54. It's more fact than opinion, and I have an N54. I don't have the money for an M3, but if I did I sure hell would have gotten that over a 335i.

    I don't get how people compare a tuned 335i to a stock M3. Make it apples to apples. Tuned M3 vs tuned 335i. Or both stock. The M3 wins.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eric335 Click here to enlarge
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    It truly does Click here to enlarge Price, suspension, engine, size, weight, ugh. $#@! BMW for making it so limited....
    this is why the new m3 could go both ways... it could be perfect or it could be terrible if the execution is wrong

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    The S65 is the better motor than the N54. It's not really my opinion, it's fact. And I have an N54.
    in what way? road racing... absolutely, tracking... absolutely

    nothing else that I can think of... especially considering it is first and foremost a street car

    u can compare a tuned s65... just not an FI s65, at that point the price becomes exorbitant where u could be in a gtr and smoke any sc's s65... plus u r messing up the excellent motor that it is
    2007 335i (100% stock with mods)

    N54 is not a German 2JZ lol

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
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    nothing else that I can think of... especially considering it is first and foremost a street car
    Power potential. Response. Design. Displacement. Valvetrain. Revs. Curve. Everything.

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